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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241951.html#241951
Dear HR,
It was my great pleasure to have chance visit your company, I really appreciate HR arranged this on-site interview for me. Thanks for all your helps!
From my resume, you can see that I am not that kind of person who like change job very often, therefore, when I looking for a job, I am actually looking for a career, looking for a company and a team which I will make contribution for many coming years. I am so glad that I found this company now.
I am very confident I am the best candidate for the openning position. I am very sure that I like the company, I like the job.
I want to say thanks a lot again for everything that HR has did for me. I looking forward to visit your comopany again.
Best Regards!
Sincerely,
xxxxxx
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楼层: #22 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:49 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241953.html#241953
Background Check & Reference
来源: realprincess
几轮面试之后,如果公司对你有意,并且愿意考虑给你offer的时候,他们一般在取得你得同意之后进行Background check和reference check,经常也有人把它们统称为background check。其实两者略微不同。
Background check的项目一般包括犯罪记录,驾驶记录,信用记录,可能也会要求candidate去做drug test (查尿样,血样, 头发, 或唾液等等)。Check的项目和公司的要求不同也就有多有少。比如金融公司可能就会规定要检查candidate的信用记录,犯罪记录。很多公司愿意用third party来进行background check,因为专业公司的服务对于公司来说更全面更经济。
Reference check 的侧重点就在于检查对照candidate在resume和interview中列举的内容是否属实。所以千万不要提供任何不属实的内容。有统计说大约百分之四十的Resume都有不同程度的“不真实”。事实是即便是candidate拿到了offer,并且开始工作之后,resume或者interview中的“不真实”被发现的话,都可能成为中断雇用合约的理由。(这并不是说你一定会被解雇,只是如果你的雇主愿意的话,这可以成为一个很好的解雇理由)
什么样的人可以做你的reference呢?以前工作的employer,supervisor,工作中的同事,如果你是学生就可以选你的professor, classmate。如果你愿意,你的朋友也可以成为你的reference。
最常见的reference应该是以前工作中的employer或者supervisor了。很多公司规定雇员在提供Reference的时候只能提供非常有限的information,比如beginning and ending employment dates,beginning and ending salary和beginning and ending job title etc。但是你的prospective employer可能问的不只这些。以下是一些常见的Reference question。
What were the beginning and ending employment dates for this individual?
What was this individual’s beginning and ending salary?
What positions did the individual hold?
Did this individual earn promotions?
What were the individual’s most-recent job duties?
Why did the individual leave your company?
Is there any reason why your company would not rehire this individual?
Would you recommend this individual for a position at another company? Why or why not?
How did this individual’s performance compare to other employees with similar job duties?
In your opinion, what are the individual’s strengths? Weaknesses?
Did this individual get along well with management and peers?
Was this individual a team player?
Was this individual a motivated self-starter?
Did any personal problems affect this individual’s work performance?
Do you think this individual will perform well as a [job title]?
What kind of job is best suited for this individual’s abilities?
How would you describe the individual’s overall performance?
Is there anything of significance you’d like to add?
How would you describe the individual’s leadership, managerial or supervisory skills?
Does the individual communicate well orally and in writing?
How do you rate the individual’s ability to plan short-term? Long-term?
Did the individual make sound and timely decisions?
Did the individual get along well with management, subordinates and peers?
Did the individual plan, administer and make budget well?
How would you describe the individual’s technical skills?
Did the individual demonstrate honesty and integrity?
How well did the individual manage crisis, pressure or stress?
Describe the individual’s ability to attract and counsel top talent.
没有人知道reference的回答在prospective employer的心目中究竟占据多少分量,作为candidate我们可以做到的就是尽量找可以为你“说好话”的reference。还有一个需要注意的是就像我们interview的时候需要准备一样,你也要帮助你的reference准备reference check。最糟糕的情况就是你的reference对自己是你的reference这件事毫无所知,突如其然的接到一个电话打听你的事情,可是怎么也想不起来你这个人。为了避免这种情况,你可以做的有以下几件事情:
1.征的同意。在你决定把某人作为你的Reference的之前,征的他/她的同意。
2.事先通知。如果你的Prospective employer和你要了reference, 尽快和你的reference联系一下,告诉他们也许会有人和他们联系,告诉他们你申请的是怎样的工作。这样你的reference在接到联系的时候不会措不急防。
3.表达感谢。不管是你拿没拿到offer,和你的reference联系一下,报告一下result,表达一下你的感谢之意。这是基本的礼貌。
最后一条非常重要的是如果你是一边上班一边找工作的话,最好不要用current supervisor做reference。除非你确信你的supervisor全力支持你换工作,否则,不要冒这个险。
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楼层: #23 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:50 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241954.html#241954
How do you know what your reference will say about you
Some friends are not sure how your reference will say about you.
It is easy to find it out.
Just spend $29.99, use http://checkmyreference.com they will help you find it out.
Or ask one of your friend to call your reference, so you can know the result and sleep well.
尽是些土办法.
Thanks!
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楼层: #24 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:51 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241955.html#241955
拿到OFFER 的烦恼
来源: 举棋不定中
请问老土和各位热心朋友,本人做IT, 最近一家公司通过中介给了我一个口头OFFER,问是否接受,回答接受后才发正式OFFER LETTER。等我拿到信一看,上面一开头就写了“we are pleased that you have accepted our offer of ..., beginning on xxxx,2007."
结尾是要求我的签名。
在这样的情况下我还可以negotiate工资吗?
如果还有回旋余地,找谁谈呢?我没有跟公司人事经理面试过,只是跟要招人的部门经理和其他有关的部门面试了二次,感觉不错,人事经理就直接通过中介告诉我口头offer,工资比我现在高一万,(我现在under paid) , 但比我在salary.com 查到的同样工作经验的meidum price 要少三千,工作会比现在忙,title 属于senior 职位。
还有中介告诉我口头offer的时候,说有bonus 若干,可我在offer letter 上没看到这一项,其他福利也只是泛泛写了一下,没有具体说明,比如401k的百分比等等,说是参照人事部门的员工手册,可他又没有发给我,请问这样的offer letter 属于 normal 吗?
我认真上了老土和朋友们总结的职场101,没看到类似的例子。
盼各位帮忙解答, 谢先!
A:
Since you already have a Agent (and Agent already 把你卖了), therefore, negotiate everything through Agent.
Send a email to the Employer:
Dear HR, Thanks for the verbal offer! I am happy with the title, job, company and teh team, I am sure I can make contribution form day one. I looking forward to start ASAP.
However, there are some details on the offer which I would like to have more discuss. I will let my Agent know. Thanks!
To the Agent:
Dear Greedy Agent,
Thanks for worked out an offer for me, I am glad to get the offer. However, I have follong concerns:
* the annual salary is not as high you promised;
* I didn't see the bonus on the offer as you promised;
* And many manhy others.....(Just kidding...)
Please call me and we need have a talk.
(Ehn you talk, prepare lots materials to approve why you worth the $$$ you are asking).
Thanks!
You are in a very good position. You are the Agent's cooked duck, he/she will not allow you to fly away. Therefore, say you are happy with the offer (means your bottom line is keep the offer, but don't tell them), however, you will be more happier if the conditions you list will be meet.
Congratulation!
Thanks!
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楼层: #25 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:53 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241956.html#241956
Real negotiation should start after get an offer in hand
来源: 美国老土
回答: Lao tu, help. no offer after negotiation.
"I got a phone call this morning, HR say that they will give me an offer."
-- Ok, nice.
" But I negotiate 10,000 more for the salary. "
-- Better wait after you get the offer in hand.
-- I did mensition this many many times.
-- If no offer in hand, you do not have a bottom line to talk, and you do not have power to talk anything.
-- And also why $10k more? Have you well prepared for the reason?
-- Do you have plan A/B/C before you ask that $10k?
"After several hours, they told me that they are not going to give me an offer."
-- Yes, this happen. You do not like that offer anyway.
" Anybody see if there is a way to save this situation? Please help. ( I should not negotiate)"
-- We all learn from our experience, we will do better next time.
-- You should do negotiate, but not that time and not that way...
Thanks!
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楼层: #26 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:54 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241957.html#241957
先看看小鱼儿家掌柜的超俊一妹儿.
Dear ***,
Thank you so much for the phone call and the offer. I'm really excited that we are in the final stage of the hiring process. I will seriously consider the offer you present to me, but at the same time I believe this offer does not truly reflect my value and experience. Here is a list of reasons that will justify me a better offer.
1. Value I will add to the name of *** (company’s name).
Utilizing micro-earthquake to track the fracture propagation in the reservoir is implemented by Deflandre (1997, AAPG Bulletin vol.81, no.8, pp.1370) 10 years ago. As gas price increases, hydraulic fracturing becomes profitable for old wells to increase these well’s productivity. Recently, the technique is experiencing a resurgence of interest. The market is dramatically increased. ***, ***, and *** have developed easy-acquisition-methods to obtain fracturing-induced microseismic signals by either downhole or surface receivers. Their processing software can handle most real cases although more improvements are needed. Their interpretation teams are gaining experience. Market is gradually being occupied by their services.
I conducted over hundred microseismic survey lines in *** and *** area for my dissertation project. The solid seismological education in *** strengthened my knowledge on earthquake locating, crack source propagation, waveform modeling, and much more. Plus programming experience on real project deepens my understanding on geophysical inversion theory. With these experiences, I am confident that I can make contribution to grab back our lost land.
2. Four years of research experience using C as a consultant with *** Software Inc. As you know three journal papers are from my consulting work and my code has been commercially incorporated into *** V6.0 and is making money.
3. Two master degrees in geology and one Ph.D in geophysics, totally 11 years education of advanced degree. You might be able to find job candidates who have advanced degree in either geophysics or geology. It is not easy to find job candidates who have both.
4. One of our MS students, *** who graduated this May 2007 from the same geophysical program as mines in *** got a job in ***. Her salary that *** offered to her is much higher than what *** is offering to me. She also has 10% bonus every year. She is happy to verify her salary by email ***.
5. Last but not the least, I have passion in this new technology and in *** who kindly pays my *** student membership fee for years.
I would be very much appreciated if you can extend me a better offer. Dean Clark (The Leading Edge, 2007, v. 26, p. 578-581) published ***'s 2006 Member Compensation Survey (attached). I believe the fairness of the survey. If you do not mind, we can start our negotiation from there.
I'm confident that I will be a highly valuable asset in your team.
Best Regards,
***
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楼层: #27 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:55 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241958.html#241958
Most valuable email ever
I have been a diver here for quite sometimes. Read a lot of posts about salary negotiation skills. Today I finally get chance to put it in use and it worked like a charm!
I got this offer today from big software company. Their initial offer was in range of my expectation, not bad but not good enough to get me excited either. So wrote an email and listed 6 reasons I deserve a better offer. At the same time I keep the door open by saying if they could not do anything better, I will still seriously consider the offer. I didn’t mention in the email how much I’m looking forward to, I just ask them to try their best.
1 hour later they called back and raise the offer from 92K with 15% bonus to 108k with 20% bonus.
LaoTu and all the DaXia here are so right. Do negotiate! You never know what you are going to get. Thanks LaoTu and all the friends who share your story here. I learn a lot form you.
Here is my email
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XXX,
Thank you so much for the phone call and the offer. I'm really excited that we are in the final stage of the hiring process. I will seriously consider the offer you present to me, but at the same time I believe this offer does not truly reflect my value and experience. Here is a list of reasons that will justify me a better offer.
1. Advanced degree in Computer Science ---I have a Masters degree in computer science, and I am working towards my Ph.D degree. This is my 3rd year in the Ph.D program and I'm currently working on my thesis.
2. XXX product consulting experience with the biggest player in the market --- I have an in-depth understanding of consulting business as well as XXX application business. My background is a perfect match to your current opening
3. xxx years of R&D experience with J2EE --- As a consultant, I could also undertake R&D projects if needed.
4. Formal education and working knowledge of IT project management.
5. As the manager of programming department, I have strong leadership skills as well as a board view towards IT infrastructure
6. Last but not the least, I have passion in this business
I would be very much appreciated if you can extend me a better offer. I'm confident that I will be a highly valuable asset in your team.
Best Regards,
Strawberry pie
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楼层: #29 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:56 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241960.html#241960
老板是俺的饭票
Here is the answer:
-- No matter where I work, I work for my manger;
-- I am one of the team member under the leadership of my manager, I do whatever my manager told me to do. His/her instruction is the first priority of my daily task;
-- When I go to a meeting with my manager, I will keep quiet listen to manager, unles manager asks me to say;
-- What I do in the meeting if manager made a mistake? The answer is: "It depends." (by the way, "It depends" is the Golden Answer for any questions)
If nobody realized or don't care my manager's mistake, I will keep queit. And I will nicely chat with my manager after the meeting if need.
If somebody realized my manager's mistake and argure with him, I will still keep queit untill my manager asks me to say something. If the mistake my manager made is a small one, I will say "Can we discuss this issue after the meeting?"
If the mistake my manager made is a big one and I knew my plan is a better one, and my manager asks me to speak out about my plan, I will say it but use the world not hurt my 饭票.
I will discuss with my manager after the meeting to share our ideas.
Anyway, I respect my manger, I always have a good relation with my manager and my team member.
Thanks!
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楼层: #30 时间: 周五 9 21, 2007 6:56 上午 |
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by yfgu 发贴于 加州阳光 http://bbs.calsunshine.info/sutra241961.html#241961
Get along with your boss
Improve your supervisor relationship and reduce stress
Provided by: MayoClinic.com
Last Updated: 09/15/2006
(http://health.yahoo.com/topic/work/overview/article/mayoclinic/513B8FA4-70DD-44F1-8F173E1330035D63)
Do you work for a manager who meets all your expectations? Do you get along well and respect one another's abilities? If you answered yes to both of these questions, consider yourself lucky. If not, don't worry. It's normal to have differences of opinion and style with your manager. You can learn to accept these differences and work with them to limit your workplace stress.
Are your work styles compatible?
Managers have differing styles when it comes to supervising work. Some use a "hands-off" approach and prefer to coach or mentor rather than manage the details closely (micromanage).
The hands-off approach gives you freedom to do your work with minimal supervision. If you're comfortable with such expectations and have the skills to work independently, this approach works well. But the hands-off approach doesn't work for everyone or for every job. You may need more of your boss's input and close supervision to do your best. Whenever there is a mismatch between the amount of supervision you want and the amount you get, you'll feel stressed.
A solution may be found by talking to your supervisor to determine if he or she is open to adjusting the level of supervision you receive. Also, if your company offers a continuing education course in communicating across personality or management styles, consider signing up for it. You'll learn about yourself and how to work successfully with people who have different styles.
How to get along with your supervisor
No matter where you are on the corporate ladder, it's to your advantage to get along well with your supervisor. Many supervisors are easy to work with, but some aren't. Your relationship with your supervisor is probably the most important one you have at work. Why? Having a healthy relationship with your supervisor usually means you're more satisfied with the work you do and have less stress.
Your boss can be a key supporter in helping you achieve your long-term goals. He or she knows your company's goals and knows what the company looks for in future managers and leaders.
You usually can't change your boss's behavior, but you can nurture the quality of the relationship. Here are some tips to keep the relationship healthy.
Show respect. Even if your boss hasn't yet won your loyalty, he or she is still entitled to your respect. Your boss is responsible for your work and the work of your colleagues. That can be a significant burden. Try to understand the business from your boss's perspective. Try to treat him or her with the respect the position and the responsibility warrant.
Don't be afraid of your boss. Some supervisors can be intimidating, but remember, your boss needs you. Your performance is often key to the success of your boss.
Do your best. Try to live up to the performance expectations set for your job. In doing your best, you'll gain greater satisfaction from your work, earn your supervisor's trust and help the organization achieve its goals.
Give honest feedback. Your supervisor needs you to tell the truth, even if it's unpleasant — and you may have valuable information or questions for your supervisor. Of course, temper your honesty with diplomacy. Choose your words wisely and use a gentle tone. Both should promote and contribute to an environment of mutual respect.
Don't try to hide problems. First, try to solve the problem. If you can't and the problem becomes serious, let your supervisor know as soon as possible. Offer solutions and ask for additional recommendations. Don't let your boss find out about the problem from someone else.
Break important news fast. If you get pregnant, become seriously ill, need to have surgery or need time off for a family crisis, inform your boss as soon as possible. This gives him or her time to cover your absence.
Maintain your boundaries. Remember to keep your business relationships about business. However close you may be with your supervisor, he or she is still the boss, and at times that means making unpopular or difficult decisions.
Be positive. When things go wrong, a positive attitude means a lot to people who work with you, including your boss. Communicate with questions or suggestions, rather than complaints. Volunteer suggestions to mitigate the problem, and don't be offended if they're not always implemented.
Manage your anger. Blowing up in front of your manager solves nothing, but demonstrates clearly that you can't control your emotions. This doesn't mean you have to sit and stew when you're angry. But learn how to communicate your anger appropriately. If anger management is difficult for you, sign up for a course to help you deal with it.
Embrace your strengths. If your boss tells you that you're good at something or have done an excellent job on a project, thank him or her and take it to heart. Recognize your own talents and nurture them.
Face your shortcomings. You can't be skilled in everything you do. Ask your supervisor for advice to help you grow in areas where you're weak. Take his or her advice and make an honest effort to improve.
Do you work with a micromanager?
A micromanager uses a "hands-on" approach to supervising your work. But he or she takes it to the extreme. If you've ever worked with a supervisor who peers over your shoulder while you work or insists you do your work only his or her way, you've experienced micromanagement and probably know how stressful it can be.
At heart, micromanagement is about trust — your supervisor's trust in your ability to get the job done. Here are tips for dealing with a micromanager:
Make a plan. The first step to confronting micromanagement is to establish trust. Develop a project plan after you receive your next assignment. Make sure you include dates and times you'll report back on your progress.
Get feedback. Get your boss's feedback on your plan early and reach an agreement on how the project will proceed. Be flexible if your boss makes changes.
Execute your plan. Follow through on the plan you both agreed on. Meet the deadlines and report back as planned. If your supervisor questions how you did something, you can say, "This is what we agreed on." If you try to reach an understanding with your boss using this technique and it doesn't improve your situation, gently confront him or her by saying, "This isn't working for me." Share your feelings and ask if the two of you can get together to improve the situation. Come prepared with the facts and possible solutions to improving your working relationship, and make your point without being emotional. Again, seek agreement for how you'll work together going forward.
When gaining control is beyond your control
Sometimes there just isn't much that can be done to change your work situation. If that's the case, try focusing on what you may be able to control:
Focus on the redeeming features of your job. Perhaps the work is exciting or the pay is good, or you like your co-workers.
Develop good work habits. Arrive on time. Stay positive, even when others are complaining. Be a team player. Know what your supervisor expects of you and meet or exceed those expectations whenever possible.
Focus on your personal life. Put work in its proper perspective. Ask yourself which is more important — your work life or your personal life. Develop interests and passions outside of work that give you a sense of control and balance — for example, leading a Girl Scout or Boy Scout troop, heading up your local neighborhood association or serving on a committee at your church, synagogue or mosque.
Is it time for a change?
If you've tried some or all of these suggestions and believe that nothing you can do will improve the situation, it may be time to consider seeking employment elsewhere. A mismatch in work demands, personalities, management style and corporate culture are all valid reasons to consider making a change.
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